[Stoves] Stove types and poverty [Was Rogerio: Pro-publicaarticle out]

[Nikhil Desai]

Crispin, Paul:

Cleaner burning of coal in more efficient power plants with particulates
and flue gas controls - located away from population centers - has done
more to improve ambient air quality in US, Europe, JANZ, and even China and
India, than any other single technological miracle.

Go ahead, prove me wrong. Electrification did a lot more to productivity
increase than mere gasification, which is still in early stages in much of
the non-OECD world.

So "clean burning coal" - as power - has not only made rich people
healthier, it has so far undoubtedly helped poor people get richer. Coal's
contribution - not everywhere - was in simply being lower-cost and
promoting electrification. And this cost advantage is now shrinking, along
with that of nuclear, and gas has a sizable window for the next few decades
in many places.

I agree TLUD should not be restricted to "biomass" alone. Fuel fetishism is
so 20th Century.

On the other hand, I fully respect Paul's wishes; I suggest getting a
trademark registered for "Champion TLUD" stoves and a couple of other
names, just so that a greater variety can be marketed. A coal or lignite
TLUD would have to be called a "Trump TLUD".

Nikhil

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Nikhil Desai
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On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <
crispinpigott at outlook.com> wrote:

> Dear Paul
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> > I am not against the clean burning of coal by poor people.
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> What have you got against rich people who burn with undetectable
> emissions? There is nothing wrong with almost all coals.
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> >TLUDs in the current discussions are those with biomass fuel unless you
> clearly state that a stove is a coal burner with at top lit design (do not
> say TLUD which is now a name in itself and understood to be using biomass
> fuel).
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> I do not agree that a *method of combusting fuel* that was first patented
> in 1707 (for making coke out of coal) is reserved for burning biomass. You
> made that up. You are going to lose that argument.
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> Your friend
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> Crispin
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