[Stoves] Celebrate! First-ever international standard for laboratory testing of cookstoves published.

[Paul Anderson]

Stovers,

Interesting discussions, and I am not taking sides about testing methods 
(but I do clearly endorse char-making stoves, but not necessarily the 
ways that they are measured / evaluaterd.)

But I will disagree with Andrew's recent comment:
>
> However coal burning space heating appliances are not a topic for this 
> list any more than discussing hydronic or hot air central heating systems.

My disagreement is not about coal vs biomass on this Listserv, but is 
about the enargy needs (cooking and room heating) of _impoverished 
_people being the true purpose of this listserv.      Crispin';s work 
with coal in those difficult circumstances is of great interest to me 
(and to others, I am sure.)

We even have interest in issues about LPG stoves as long as the 
discussion is about developing socieities (and not about LPG for 
backyard grilling, etc.)

Paul

Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
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On 6/29/2018 4:38 AM, Andrew Heggie wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 at 04:16, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott 
> <crispinpigott at outlook.com <mailto:crispinpigott at outlook.com>> wrote:
>
>     *Ronal>Measuring char-making capabilities of a cook stove
>     that excels in emissions and other ways is probably a real problem
>     if one is into coal-consuming heating stoves.*
>
>
>     Are you trying to impugn the work of thousands of diligent workers
>     bringing better lives and living conditions to the hundreds of
>     millions of people suffering from coal and smoke in Asia? Even for
>     you, that is a scurrilous /ad hom/ comment.
>
>
>
> Crispin that it a non sequitur from Ronal's (correct) point and itself 
> disingenuous ad hominem attack.
>
> It's a simple fact that char making and coal burning stoves are 
> opposites.
>
> I applaud your placing a design into the public domain and there is 
> little doubt coal will be used to make heat and power for a while yet, 
> all the time some of my electricity is provided by coal burning I'm 
> not going to deny anyone the right to keep warm when no alternative 
> means are available.
>
> However coal burning space heating appliances are not a topic for this 
> list any more than discussing hydronic or hot air central heating systems.
>
>     If you are not willing to do the groundwork necessary to make
>     useful contributions to the science of performance testing and
>     rating, your level of influence will not rise above its current
>     undetectable level.
>
>
> That is a woolly and unnecessary statement as Ronal does more 
> groundwork looking into the science of burning and pollution than most 
> on here, myself included.
>
>     This correspondence is sufficiently complete.
>
>
> I would hope so but am well used to your desire to have the last word.
>
> Andrew
>
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