[Stoves] Interesting Video

Wed Mar 28 08:56:43 CDT 2018

The science reported is sound – it summarizes the effects of extra CO2 on hundreds of species, doing nothing more than quoting published studies.  The Nature article is a common-or-garden hatchet job worrying about the editorial material in CO2 science.

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From: Stoves [mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Gordon West
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CO2 Science is a very controversial source for CO2 science.

http://blogs.nature.com/climatefeedback/2008/08/more_for_the_annals_of_climate_1.html

Gordon 

On Mar 28, 2018, at 6:31 AM, Philip Lloyd <plloyd at mweb.co.za <mailto:plloyd at mweb.co.za> > wrote:

Many of the questions are answered in CO2 Science,  <http://www.co2science.org/> http://www.co2science.org/

Prof Philip Lloyd

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From: Stoves [ <mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> mailto:stoves-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Heggie
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On 27 March 2018 at 17:25, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott < <mailto:crispinpigott at outlook.com> crispinpigott at outlook.com> wrote:

Dear Andrew

I don't want to spend as much time on the reply as you did.

And you didn't you simply cut and pasted some unattributed graphs out of their original context and a cite from an article about CO2 enrichment in enclosed systems which are not the real world, neither is the idea of shading the area growing staple crops in the tropics, it's done here in UK but only on luxury crops.

I too would ask people to read up about the effects of increased CO2 levels but take it off this list.

As a start people may like to muse on this quote “The problem with [the skeptics’] argument is that it’s as if you can cherry-pick the CO2 fertilization effect from the overall effect of adding carbon dioxide to the atmosphere,” Myers says. But that is not how the world—or its climate—works. fromhttps:// <http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ask-the-experts-does-rising-co2-benefit-plants1/> www.scientificamerican.com/article/ask-the-experts-does-rising-co2-benefit-plants1/

Andrew

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