[Stoves] Ghana news: Clean charcoal cookstoves to help solve climate change

[Nikhil Desai]

Paul:

Your computations assume t hat a user has only one stove and that is
charcoal. I think the UNDP report estimate of per household charcoal use
for households that did use charcoal (unclear if exclusively)was about
600-700 kg a year. If the new stove reduces consumption by 50% - very
doubtful - that would mean 300-350 kg a year. Does that amount to 1 ton CO2
a year if the fNRB is not 1 but 0.5?

Is it possible Ghana had no choice but to sell cheap, given the uncertainty
about Article 6 of the Paris Agreement and the possibility that there would
be no carryover of carbon credits under the CDM to post-2020 regime?

Beggars can't be choosers. I am sure the South Koreans are spending a third
to a half of the money on implementation costs and computational
consultants.

If fuel use reduction is attractive to users, why are Koreans needed in the
first place?

Something is wrong, big time, in the way we have dreamed about carbon
finance for the poor. Even more so with biomass cookstoves.

This one story says Ghana has too much power and gas. Giving away gas and
electric stoves could be the win-win-win you are looking for.
https://www.myjoyonline.com/business/2019/November-15th/energy-surplus-leaves-ghana-paying-for-power-it-doesnt-need.php


Nikhil
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On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 9:53 PM Anderson, Paul <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:

> Nikhil,
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> Thanks for bringing that Ghana / South Korea item to our attention.   I
> would have missed it otherwise.
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> Using the provided numbers, there will be 500,000 stoves with an average
> life of  4 years (3 – 5).  I think that charcoal stoves could be credited
> with 1 to 2 carbon credits (CC) per year.  ( I  will  use 1 CC/yr and then
> it is simple to multiply it larger if merited)
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> That would be 500,000 CC per year X 4 years = 2 million CC for the total
> project.
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> Cost of project is estimated at US$5.5 million, but did not say if all of
> that money was from South Korea.   Assuming 90% ($5 million), then the
> South Koreans are acquiring carbon credits at US$ 2.50 per CC.   (check my
> math, but I think that seems correct).
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> So, if the stoves last 5 years, or if the S. Korean funds are less than
> the $5 million, or it the CC per stove is greater than 1.0 (say 1.5 or
> 2.0), the South Korean expense per CC would be even less, maybe even only
> half.
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> 1.  Good Public Relations for South Korea and a rock bottom  price for CC
> to help South  Korea meet its climate commitments.
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> 2.  Some cookstove improvements in Ghana, including creating some local
> jobs and $10 per stove investment  into the economy.
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> 3.  Some reduction in carbon emissions to the atmosphere, which is climate
> positive.
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> That makes it a Win – Win – Win situation.
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> How come there is not more of this being done?
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> And why $10 per stove for a charcoal burner when better “bang for the
> buck” can be had with other stoves?     (and some of us are working toward
> a $10 TLUD-ND with much more benefits).
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> Paul
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