[Stoves] Stoves Digest, Vol 111, Issue 15

Sun Nov 17 12:18:09 CST 2019

Everyone;

I also would like to be included in a list of people discussing TLUD design
- but, I tend to think it ought to be an open discussion here on the
stove's list without letting previous conclusions dictate directions
forward. I recognize that is a very careful balance between
harebrained half-concocted imaginative ideas and old-school understanding
but the result is creative ideas and inspirations. Recently, we had a TLUD
Summit at Aprovecho. It was enormously productive because everyone involved
brought everything they could think of to the table for discussion. It was
also incredibly busy. But, I would not trade the experience for anything
because I was exposed to so many ideas from so many people and, luckily, I
think I was able to help out a few people attending.

Norm

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 10:01 AM <stoves-request at lists.bioenergylists.org>
wrote:

> Send Stoves mailing list submissions to
>         stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>
> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org
>
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>         stoves-request at lists.bioenergylists.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>         stoves-owner at lists.bioenergylists.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Stoves digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: Invitation to join off-list dialog on a different type of
>       TLUD (Ronal Larson)
>    2. Re: Invitation to join off-list dialog on a different type of
>       TLUD (Anderson, Paul)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 11:39:40 -0700
> From: Ronal Larson <rongretlarson at comcast.net>
> To: Andrew Heggie <ajheggie at gmail.com>, Discussion of biomass cooking
>         stoves <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] Invitation to join off-list dialog on a
>         different type of TLUD
> Message-ID: <E284ACA6-5760-4DB2-A1AD-290C60D71100 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
>
> Andrew:
>
>         Definitely intended - hopefully within weeks.  Just don?t want to
> bother the list if there are fundamental (mostly cost, I now worry about)
> reasons to not promote this maybe hare-brained set of ideas.
>
>         Thanks for the support.
>
> Ron
>
> > On Nov 16, 2019, at 3:37 AM, ajheggie at gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 00:36, Ronal Larson <rongretlarson at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>        Anyone want to be part of this off-list, few-week dialog?
> >
> >
> > Ronal I see you want replies off list but make an exception; I'm not
> > sure why you wish it to be off list but hope you'll bring it back here
> > after your brainstorming.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Stoves mailing list
> >
> > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address
> > stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
> >
> > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page
> >
> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org
> >
> > for more Biomass Cooking Stoves,  News and Information see our web site:
> > http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 02:36:16 +0000
> From: "Anderson, Paul" <psanders at ilstu.edu>
> To: Discussion of biomass <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>, Ronal
>         Larson <rongretlarson at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Stoves] Invitation to join off-list dialog on a
>         different type of TLUD
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CY4PR03MB3222E0DAF2C193B8ECC0F455DB720 at CY4PR03MB3222.namprd03.prod.outlook.com
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Ron and all,
>
> I just got back from the CCA Forum in Kenya, and found out I have just
> found out that messages from the stove Listserv have not been received by
> me.
>
> Yes, I would like to be include in the discussion about variations of TLUD
> stoves.
>
> Paul
>
> Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD
> Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP
> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu<mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>       Skype:
>  paultlud
> Phone:  Office: 309-452-7072    Mobile: 309-531-4434
> Website:   www.drtlud.com<http://www.drtlud.com>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:
> [Stoves] Invitation to join off-list dialog on a different type of TLUD
> Date:
> Fri, 15 Nov 2019 17:34:25 -0700
> From:
> Ronal Larson <rongretlarson at comcast.net><mailto:rongretlarson at comcast.net>
> Reply-To:
> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
> ><mailto:stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> To:
> Discussion of biomass cooking stoves <stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
> ><mailto:stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>
>
> List:
>
> I have been thinking for about a week on how to make a ?better? TLUD. I
> have a scheme in mind that has these features:
>
> - should be able to take over a larger percentage of cooking and heating
> tasks than presently available commercial TLUD models. (for one, more than
> one cooking port)
> - should be lower cost than the usual TLUDs - by virtue of local
> manufacture and assembly (following work of Kevin McLean)
> - would separate the chimney from the pyrolysis chamber (taller, and some
> horizontal flow paths - also reported by Kevin)
> - would emphasize annual costs and income - not first costs (an investment
> - not a cost)
> - is amenable to biochar use of more produced char (my primary motivation)
> - more ideas not listed here - all assuming open source use by anyone; no
> patents intended.
>
> Anyone want to be part of this off-list, few-week dialog? (Trying to avoid
> mis-statements; I have not yet finished a draft that is already too long).
> Replies requested off-list.
>
> Ron
> _______________________________________________
> Stoves mailing list
>
> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address
> stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org<mailto:stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>
> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page
>
> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org
>
> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site:
> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/
> -------------- next part --------------
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
> URL: <
> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20191117/86d855cb/attachment-0001.html
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>
> _______________________________________________
> Stoves mailing list
>
> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address
> stoves at lists.bioenergylists.org
>
> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page
>
> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org
>
>
> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves,  News and Information see our web site:
> http://www.bioenergylists.org/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of Stoves Digest, Vol 111, Issue 15
> ***************************************
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20191117/bcb7db58/attachment.html>