[Stoves] Another stove - climate paper

[Ronal Larson]

Nikhil , list and Crispin  both can confirm the following)

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> On Jan 2, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Nikhil Desai <ndesai at alum.mit.edu> wrote:
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> Ron: 
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> Not fair. I had sent it to only you and Crispin. 

	[RWL:   Not true:  Here is a screen shot showing  what I (and the list and Crispin) received.  Have you looked at what you sent?


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> I am tired of reading the likes of these authors. 
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> And I don't care what I write in private. 
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> I expect an apology. 

	[RWL:  Do you still?

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> Not that I give a damn what you find on your google searches. 
	
	[RWL:  But many of us do care about what you write about others - whose work we generally admire.  I believe almost everybody object to ad hominem attacks - which reduce readership on this list.

Ron

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> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 7:44 PM Ronal Larson <rongretlarson at comcast.net <mailto:rongretlarson at comcast.net>> wrote:
> Nikhil. Cc List:  This came up when I did a google search:
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> ad ho·mi·nem
> /ˌad ˈhämənəm/
> adjective
> (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
> "vicious ad hominem attacks"
> adverb
> 1.
> in a way that is directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
> "these points come from some of our best information sources, who realize they'll be attacked ad hominem"
> 2.
> in a way that relates to or is associated with a particular person.
> "the office was created ad hominem for Fenton"
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> Ron
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>> On Jan 2, 2020, at 5:25 PM, Nikhil Desai <pienergy2008 at gmail.com <mailto:pienergy2008 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Ron: 
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>> I read this when it came out and might have critiqued it on the list or with friends. 
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>> I assign, on the scale of 0 to 100, precisely a zero to anything that has Susan Annenberg. The rest don't add anything either. 
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>> Academic junk. Please read the primary references and observe some integrity protocol. 
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>> Publishing papers for the sake of filling CVs. 
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>> Nikhil Desai
>> (US +1) 202 568 5831
>> Skype: nikhildesai888
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>> On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 6:33 PM Ronal Larson <rongretlarson at comcast.net <mailto:rongretlarson at comcast.net>> wrote:
>> List:
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>> 	I don’t recall previously reading (or discussing on this list) this 2013 (non-fee) paper at https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/es304942e <https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/es304942e>.
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>> 	Title: "Cleaner Cooking Solutions to Achieve Health, Climate, and Economic Cobenefits"
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>> 	Jim Jetter,  perhaps my favorite stove expert (head of a big part of the recent ISO exercise) is one of the co-authors. 
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>> 	 What most interests me are Tables 2 and 3 - which cover ALL three of the title topics - not just health.  Note “Cobenefits”.   These need not be separate stove topics.
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>> 	They are NOT endorsing here what I have been suggesting - funding for char-making stoves to accomplish carbon climate goals.  But they are not far from it.
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>> Ron
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