[Stoves] GARI FRYING STOVE

Marc Stephan Nkouly mcsteann at gmail.com
Sun Mar 14 10:28:21 CDT 2021


Greetings
Effectively the description is EXACT. Now coming to the fact the heat is
more higher than what I need it simply means i should look for a different
strategy.
Or maybe focus on a different products ?
It's true am really interested in creating values in my farm.
In fact as much as am whiling to be doing research i can't ignore the fact
am first in a position to make sure I can develop a sustainability strategy
before I can think about research and development.
Feel free to propose designs i can implement to :
#Produce CHARCOAL with Biomass
#Produce BIOCHAR with Biomass
or even a SYSTEM to SMOKE FISH & PIG MEAT as those are things am also
planning to implement in the farm.
It's true the Garry I want to even venture into is to make sure I can be
having small Income to sustain the Integrated farm Activities.
In fact i simply find unfortunate that my family is owning land and with my
little means I can't exploit it effectively.
So am whiling to collaborate with anyone who can guide me to realise things
in the farm.
Will share pictures of the Garry process as soon as I get started.
Thanks

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021, 10:40 PM Ronal Larson <rongretlarson at comcast.net>
wrote:

> Marc and ccs, adding six new
>
>         Yours is a most welcome message.
>
>         1.  There have probably been hundreds before you making charcoal
> in many thousands of used/discarded 200 liter (55 gallon) barrels.   I am
> unaware of any that directly use the huge thermal energy that accompany
> charcoal making in these barrels/drums.  So it is exciting to hear you want
> to try.  Here’s hoping someone on this list can identify a predecessor TLUD
> investigator interested in barrel-size food processing like you are
> proposing..
>
>         2.   A little background research today showed many publications
> on preparing gari (for many in the US - it seems tapioca is the closest
> translation.).  Sounds delicious.     For what seems to be the last of many
> processing steps, I found these two short videos to be helpful
>
>      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9b6WpkZqnE    and.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDkxk64dRHA
>
>         3.  For the chemistry of what is going on I found Google help with
> the term: 'Sheet pan roasted vegetables’
>
>                  I saw the temperature of 425 F a lot.  (220 C).
> Roasting times of 15-30 minutes depending on the vegetable.  Probably
> ‘gari” is  in that range - and that timing won’t matter if a TLUD can
> overcome its own “batch" difficulties.
>
>         4.  TLUD difficulties
>                 -   One main one is that the barrels give off tremendous
> heat.  The videos show the cooks sitting next to massive mud/stone stones
> that protect them.  Some thermal barrier will be needed.  But added
> insulation will improve conversion efficiency. This need not be a big
> problem.   See also note below on skirts.
>                 -   The barrels are taller than normal garri stoves.  A
> way to have taller seating is needed.
>                 -   The barrels will probably be best emptied immediately
> after pyrolysis is complete.
>                                 Carried away to be tipped over elsewhere
> ?  (Will take two.)
>                                 Tipped over in place?   (Need extra space)
>                                 Closed up air tight?   (Won’t be easy, if
> the barrel itself has the needed secondary holes - which is almost surely
> the best way - to keep height low)
>                                 Add water in place   (messy - doesn’t
> sound best)
>                                 Empty the char in place (successful
> approach in Bangladesh for much smaller stationary unit.  I’m leaning
> toward this approach,). Maybe need a pit?
>                 -  Smoke inhalation.  Probably better than all existing
> outdoor garri systems, but maybe need a solar power fan
>
>         5.   TlUD benefits:
>                 - Can make money through char sales..  Or self use the
> char for improved crop yields
>                 -  can use many free fuels not possible with traditional
> stoves (corn cobs etc)
>                 -  no need to tend fire, so can roast more ‘garri" per hour
>                 -  can set proper temperature and it stays essentially the
> same cooking temperature for 1-2 hours.
>                 -  CO and particulate release will be down a lot.
>                 -  stove cost is low and easily reproducible locally
> anywhere; relatively long life likely.
>                 -  a short skirt will help a lot
>
>         6.  Help
>                 a.  Norm Baker has been firing in these barrels for more
> than a decade and is now on something like model 20,  Not for cooking
> though.
>                 b.   Michael Shafer has experience with hundreds of users
> and thousands of barrel-burns - many in Africa..  Also not for cooking, but
> probably good on primary air control and fuels.
>                 c.  Julien Winter has been successful in Bangladesh with
> an ‘akha” small stationary TLUD
>                 d.  Kevin McLean has  been working on very low cost TLUDs
> for East Africa.  Normally very small stoves  but we have discussed this
> scale and use of 200 liter barrels. - for cook pots in rural schools.
>                 e.  There has been nice work led by Jim Jetter of our EPA
> on stove performance testing - about to start a new ISO activity directed
> at stoves of your scale.
>                 f.   Andrew Heggie, moderator, has a good memory and has
> worked on char-making at an even larger scale than yours.
>
> I wouldn’t proceed until you feel you can overcome all the difficulties
> with TLUDs at your scale.
>
> Good luck
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> > On Mar 10, 2021, at 3:49 AM, Marc Stephan Nkouly <mcsteann at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings to everyone
> >
> > Am a young man in CAMEROON who wish to collaborate with you people to
> propose a Design for a TLDU to fry GARI.
> > I admit not having any knowledge in the Technology but had discovered
> this list back in 2012 . Unfortunately I never had the means in those days
> to try what am whiling to work on now.
> > Feel free to propose something that can permit me to get started as i
> don't mind to share my experience for it to be improved progressively.
> > Am also interested in producing
> > BIOMASS CHARCOAL with AGRICULTURAL WASTE.
> > So feel free to reply me in case you're interested in a collaboration.
> > Am also member of s project PIRL
> > PARTNERSHIP FOR INCLUSIVE RESEARCH & LEARNING that is a project
> sponsored by SHRC a  CANADIAN FUNDING agency but those are related to
> Disability & Inclusive Development.
> > Waiting for feedback from you.
> > Thank you
> >
> >
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