[Stoves] [Biochar] Video of the Fabstove

Anderson, Paul psanders at ilstu.edu
Thu May 13 21:19:24 CDT 2021


Debbie,

For fallen branches, the RoCC Kiln would be easier and go all the way to biochar without intermediate steps of chipping, etc.

Further development of the RoCC X-Frame barrel  size being done today and tomorrow.   I will be putting the units to work  to evaluate them with various feedstocks.

Paul

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On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:12 PM Ron Larson <rongretlarson at comcast.net<mailto:rongretlarson at comcast.net>> wrote:
Jock et al

Good question.  I’m anxious to hear other answers.

In general, we want secondary air as close to the hot produced char as possible.  Starting with a partial fuel load works against that general principal.    I think I have found a waay to have the secondary air follow the falling char.  Will try to get that out soon.  Never been tested.
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Anyone else “solved" that problem?  Using a fan/blower excepted.

Kevin Mclean has told me of cooks running their stove (not a TLUD, but could have been) just for the char.  I like that solution also.  Lots of 55 gallon barrels running that way

Ron




On May 11, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Jock Gill <jock at jockgill.com<mailto:jock at jockgill.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

Congratulations o the FABstove.  Looks great.

Can you use less than two pounds of pellets and get good results?  Or is it possible to boil water and then stop the pyrolysis to save fuel for the next run? There are many times when I would  not want a one hour fire.  The ability to start and stop and then restart  the fuel load would be useful.

I would also refer readers to the  work of Paul Olivier in Viet Nam. His forced air blue flame gasified is very interesting.

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On May 11, 2021, at 12:15 AM, Anderson, Paul <psanders at ilstu.edu<mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu>> wrote:

Stovers and  Biochar folk,

The Fabstove is a forced-air FA-TLUD pyrolytic stove.   It cooks with the pyrolytic gases while leaving behind valuable charcoal.

An introductory video is at:

https://vimeo.com/547309109?fbclid=IwAR1fdYK4rRJ366IyTgl0m-D9-ggJIE1-6ZiNFqZ_p9Gvbpa-vLHL13uHUjE<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvimeo.com%2F547309109%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR1fdYK4rRJ366IyTgl0m-D9-ggJIE1-6ZiNFqZ_p9Gvbpa-vLHL13uHUjE&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca377c98a97074f33c9cc08d9161885f2%7C085f983a0b694270b71d10695076bafe%7C1%7C0%7C637565116859870958%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=6eG0ZOLRPojf2mzV8%2FgQvRZAF2EcywiqcCBkd2GNJWE%3D&reserved=0>

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