[Stoves] Risk of CO poisoning with TLUDs

[Julien Winter]

Hi All;

A scientist would say that the statement "all TLUDs have safe emissions of
CO from residual char" is a hypothesis in need of experimental
falsification.  CO should be measured under a variety of conditions (fuels,
fuel moisture, primary air rates, etc) to see if the hypothesis is false.
If we can't falsify the hypothesis then we conclude that the hypothesis is
"probably" true.  If we do find circumstances where CO emissions are
hazardous, then we say the TLUD is "probably" safe under these conditions,
but not safe under these other conditions.

Scientists are professional skeptics and engineers are professional can-do
optimists, so they differ in their training and approach to research.

Cheers,
Julien

On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 4:13 PM Julien Winter <winter.julien at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Crispin;
>
> Thanks for your detailed reply.
>
> From this I would assume that under almost all circumstances, the TLUD is
> operated with sufficient ventilation to prevent dangerous levels of CO.
> Nobody operates a TLUD in an enclosed space, because during flame out,
> there is often a small amount of smoke released that would be unpleasant if
> it was not dissipated.  Start-ups can also release some smoke.  I have not
> heard of anyone suffering "death by TLUD."
>
> Sincerely,
> Julien.
>
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 10:04 AM Julien Winter <winter.julien at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All;
>>
>> I should mention that I am most concerned with the potential risk when
>> char is not handled efficiently, such as char leaving the TLUD unattended
>> after running the TLUD with the primary air turned down, or dumping the
>> char into a pile without quenching it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Julien
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 9:36 PM Julien Winter <winter.julien at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All;
>>>
>>> Something just occurred to me.  If a large amount of char is allowed to
>>> accumulate at the bottom of a TLUD, and the primary air flow is low, is
>>> there a risk of carbon monoxide poisoning?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Julien
>>>
>>> --
>>> Julien Winter
>>> Cobourg, ON, CANADA
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Julien Winter
>> Cobourg, ON, CANADA
>>
>
>
> --
> Julien Winter
> Cobourg, ON, CANADA
>


-- 
Julien Winter
Cobourg, ON, CANADA
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