[Gasification] Continuing

phillip manske pdmanske at gmail.com
Thu Jul 21 17:39:26 CDT 2011


Hi Ed,

If you feel you have something worthwhile, please contribute.

Regards,

Phillip





On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Ed Woolsey <woolsey at netins.net> wrote:

> I would add an action item ask to the end of the document.
>
> I would be willing to submit to any paper but the DSMR.  I've been working
> on one for them.
> I can think about another author if you'd like.
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> On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:52:47 -0700
>  "Mark Ludlow" <mark at ludlow.com> wrote:
>  So Philip, once you can grow trillions of
> Peptostreptococcus productus,
>  where are you? They take your useable CO and convert it
> into CO2 and
>  acetate. Is this what you're after?
>
>  Mark
>
>
>
> From: gasification-bounces at lists.**bioenergylists.org<gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>  [mailto:gasification-bounces@**lists.bioenergylists.org<gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org>]
> On
> Behalf Of phillip
>  manske
>  Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:57 AM
>  To: david at h4c.org; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and
> gasification
>  Subject: Re: [Gasification] Continuing
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>
>
>  Hi all,
>
>
>
>  Until I get my library card, I'm gonna be quiet.  That
> will be little more
>  than a week.
>
>
>
>  I have every intention of not digesting and every
> intention of operating the
>  reactors according to published papers.  Digestion is a
> sloppy process and
>  digestate is very difficult to come by and manage.  I'm
> not interested in
>  moving 10 tens of slop either in or out every day.  No,
> just no.
>
>
>
>  The gasifer provides reliably with no waste afterward,
> the exact right
>  bacteria will act in the exact right way.  I'm not going
> to make a reactor
>  and then leave the top off for a week and hope the right
> bacteria shows up.m
>  That sounds counter productive.
>
>
>
>  There are very explicit instructions on the matter and I
> intend on following
>  them.
>
>
>
>  Peptostreptococcus productus or bust.
>
>
>
>  Phillip
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>  On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:37 AM, David <david at h4c.org>
> wrote:
>
>
>  Dr. Reed,
>
>
>  On 7/20/2011 12:27 PM, Thomas Reed wrote:
>
>  Dear Phil and all
>
>  Phil seems concerned about getting the "right" bacteria.
>  My impression is
>  "if you vuildmit, they will come".
>
>
>
>  Anaerobic life has proven ubiquitous, indeed, so wherever
> conditions are
>  right-- a biogas digester, a stagnant pond, one's own
> gut-- anaerobes indeed
>  "show up". One may want to gather inoculates from various
> sources-- cow
>  manure, ground up termites-- and put those things in the
> digester, but it is
>  not certain that will assist in producing more biogas.
> Regardless, given
>  that the digester will be a very complex ecosystem
> exposed to repeated
>  inoculations with incoming material, there is little
> point in trying to
>  arrange things so that the "livestock" are restricted to
> a particular set of
>  chosen species. It might be done, but it would require
> sterilizing incoming
>  material, etc., and it's not clear all that can take
> place and still have
>  the system be net positive for energy, or indeed anything
> like as net
>  positive as a "fill and forget" system.
>
>
>
>  d.
>
>  --
>
>  David William House
>
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>
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