[Gasification] Potential Gasification Winner?

[doug.williams]

Hi Arnt, Tom T. and Colleagues,

Thanks for the responses to my questions regarding this companies   http://www.agtgasification.com/eng/agt_srl.htm 
presentation of it's gasification technology.

>> Dear Group,>>      I do not worry about this group going very far. 
> 
> ..wrong, this _is_ our problem, _they_ _fail_, and _they_ _burn_
> investors, politicians, and potential industrial partners who
> _experience_ failures "in gasification", rather than on incompetent 
> attemps at R&D, or worse, e.g. investor fraud or white washing of 
> dope etc money.

We certainly do have some interesting informed lurkers watching this list, who privately have told me from their own enquiries for larger systems, that AGT are happy to demonstrate their systems working in Italy. The 250kWe system is to be replaced by a 500kWe model, for which they say, have an order to supply 30 units to the Dominican Republic.

As their technology has emphasis on gas cleaning, rather than tar free gas making, one might hope that those who get to use these in that country, will also be given the infrastructural support to maintain the water cleaning system, and prevent any release of toxic materials to the ground water. It is also true that black liquors can be recycled into other useful products in a rural situation devoid of expensive commercially produced chemicals, influencing the choice of gasification technology.

While Arnt points out the down side of failed projects, I know of previous Italian Government Aid to developing countries, included gasifiers, but not monetary Aid. The recipient country didn't want them, and substantial "influence" was used to get just one installed at a Sawmill. Gasification can fail for all the wrong reasons, and we need to keep up with all manufactures progress, or regression, as to how they enter the markets with the technology approach they offer.

There are "horses for courses", so we should not be critical of any system, unless it is presented completely out of focus with it's capability. In this respect, what are the intended users of these gasifiers (in fact from any manufacturer) expecting resulting from there installation? We don't know how desperate potential users may be, so it should be important to clearly present information that may be only specific for that gasification system in their location. It could mean success or failure to the user(:-)

So, the next questions. Who can answer for the Dominican Republics implementation programme for gasifiers? Is this a Government  implementation programme, or a private commercially driven need for gasified energy from forestry or agricultural waste? It would also be interesting to learn if AGT have previously supplied systems for testing before this large order was placed.

I appreciated the private communications, and respect that some cannot offer public comment, but I would encourage more lurkers to participate, either through me or one of your other confidents to share obscure information on all things gasification.

Doug Williams,
Fluidyne.








 

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