[Digestion] Biogas conversation rates

[Alexander Eaton]

Brent,

There is a chance we have come to an impasse.  But to be clear I agree with
you on a few points:
1.  Corn ethanol is not something I consider under "renewable energy", given
that corn requires fossil fuel to produce.
2.  If someone gives you money for flower and cooking fuel, then yes, your
bread is subsidized.

The fact that oil rigs were shut down after the worst oil spill in US
history surprises you, that you can chalk up the fact that emissions from
fossil fuel warms the planet as junk science, or that subsidizing clean
energy so that the technology become more viable in the future does not make
sense are points that I hope you will reconsider.

Cheers

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:50 PM, bingham <bingham at zekes.com> wrote:

>  Steve,
> Thanks for the brief glimmer of relief "Count me among those who look
> forward to the end of this thread " before you also piled on. I live in a
> family of tree hugging flaming liberals from my uncles to most of my
> brothers. I do not subscribe to the liberal belief that repeating something
> over and over makes it true.
> I think if you fallow the money you usually get to the truth. Find out who
> funds something then look into there beliefs. If is not a coincidence that
> the studies people and groups fund almost always aggress with their
> preconceived notions.
> It is obvious continuing this thread well serve no useful purpose. I am not
> saying you all do not believe what you are saying but who or what puts food
> on your
> tables.  Does cheep energy help or hurt you make a living? Does AD some how
> directly or indirectly fund your activities? Would "climate change' being
> proven
> to be a hoax help or hurt your activities?
>
> I have proven with my own money (not money from a grant, a study or some
> other out side source) that AD has a place with out regard for energy costs
> or global warming. AD can stand on its own in the bright light of day
> irrespective of our side influences. I do not make a living from AD in any
> way and so I can
> say it with out a political ax to grind.
> It is my bed time framers get up early around hear. Must get up early and
> turn the auger on to feed the AD in the AM
> Good night,
> B
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Steve Verhey <verheys at hotmail.com>
> *To:* digestion at lists.bioenergylists.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:42 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Digestion] Biogas conversation rates
>
>
> Count me among those who look forward to the end of this thread. Even so, I
> can't resist offering some data:
> http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=48574 .
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:31:30 -0800
> From: 9watts at gmail.com
> To: digestion at lists.bioenergylists.org
> Subject: Re: [Digestion] Biogas conversation rates
>
> Eric,
> good points all, but let's not forget that Brent believes climate change is
> cooked up by conspirators.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:31 PM, bingham <bingham at zekes.com> wrote:
>
> ...global warming has been debunked as junk science produced
> by a group of co conspirators paid to produce a set of data which would
> support an pre conceived agenda.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Eric Buysman <ericishier at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>
> Hence, when taking a holistic perspective, considering externalities, there
> is a good case to assume that fossil fuels are artificially cheap.
>
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