[Stoves] Biomass-- self propelled

Richard Stanley rstanley at legacyfound.org
Wed Jun 27 15:59:10 CDT 2012


Hi  Paul, 
Quick response from I phone: 
Stoves = three stones cooking huge tubs flat bottom outward flared sides of ~ 20 gallon capacity. That or unimproved cinder block sided ~ 1/8 th " ms plate topped planchas.  No stove pipe. Pretty east stuff to improve and a good test for good quality bqs frankly...
Gotta board.. More anon,
Richard

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 27, 2012, at 9:21, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:

> Richard,
> 
> Great progress.   Congratulations.
> 
> Are the briquette being made (or could be made with you system there) in "small chunky" sizes that would be appropriate for a TLUD stove?
> 
> And at nearly 3000 meters elevation, what are their stove types?   Specifically, do the stoves have chimneys?    One or two pot, or a plancha?    And how many hours are they kept ignited each day?   Provide photos if possible, please.
> 
> Paul
> Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu   Skype: paultlud  Phone: +1-309-452-7072
> Website:  www.drtlud.com
> On 6/27/2012 7:56 AM, Richard Stanley wrote:
>> Hi Paal, 
>> 
>> Hope this finds you well and kicking !  Had to add to your recent note about use of biomass. 
>> 
>> Am down here in Guatemala, after an intensive week up in the North east and west of the country, visiting recently trained producers, I can tell you that I have only got a small glimpse of the incredible richness of diversity here and the skills of the people in adapting them. It's really something to see !. 
>> 
>> The initial training included 24 camposinoes in April:  There are now about 400 involved over four widely distributed locations.
>> 
>> The trained groups are, predictably not yet quite ready for the market--we have also had to devise smore clever ways to work through the rains together, but it can be done--and is. 
>> We will be back in November for training of selected teams of trainers out of these new producers, once they are a bit more seasoned, then, watch it spread.  
>> 
>> The short story is, that in adapting biomass–beyond wood alone, a whole new door of opportunity arises. The best part is that the real experts are those who use those resources           every day: We're just mechanics of the process. 
>> 
>> That aroma of eucalyptus and mango leave blends being super dried on the plancha, emitting aromas without smoke, while driving off small flies mossies for cooking a hearty Chapin breakfast at 9,500 ft elevation in San Pablo, de San Marcos :   It doesn't get much better than that !  
>> 
>> Pressing on, 
>> 
>> Richard Stanley
>> ww.legacyfound.org
>> 
>> ========
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 27, 2012, at 3:39 AM, Paal Wendelbo wrote:
>> 
>> Stovers
>> 
>> Are we talking about, stoves and fuel for cooking to be used 2-3 times per day by more than 1/3 of the population the world?  
>> 
>> With higher demands for emission and efficiency it will go in a direction to more expensive and sophisticated subsidized stoves; produced by high technology factories somewhere, and which need a special type of fuel to fit to the stove. Will that be biomass or fossil fuel is one question, another will be, will the carbon credit also be available for fuel? The stove is investment; the fuel is every day running costs.
>> 
>> It is possible to produce a perfect TLUD-ND at almost no cost, but it will not last for more than a month. The cost of the fuel will be the same as for more sophisticated stoves and need the same attention as the stove and has in all contexts to be treated together.
>> 
>> To me biomass will be the natural fuel for most people in the developing world, and today around 15 % of the population in developing countries have their daily income from biomass as household energy. Biomass is mostly available where people stay in terms of human, agriculture and forestry waste, and will be excellent household energy for simple TLUDs treated the right way. Biomass as household energy will save existing jobs and create new jobs and that is what’s needed. Take a look on another interesting link www.agronova.no  can be one alternative.
>> 
>> Together with GACC we have a unique opportunity to do something to really improve the life of 1/3 the world population.
>> 
>> Create more unemployment or create more jobs? That’s the main question.
>> 
>>  Best regards Paal W
>> 
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