[Stoves] Final (?) report on stove camp

[Crispin Pemberton-Pigott]

Dear Rebecca

 

Thanks for the good pictures. Please get good drawings of the oven and a
couple of photos of how it sits on the stove. I will pass them to Prianti
Utami if she is not watching (she subscribes here).

 

Regards

Crispin

 

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Dear Dean, Paul, Everyone at the Aprovecho Stove Camp 2013 and Stovers,

Dean, Paul - Thank you very much for organizing Stove Camp 2013.  It was the
first I attended and will be one of many in the future.  I had so much fun
and great learning opportunities from EVERYONE there.  I also want to thank
Larry Winiarski for fulfilling my request for a simple and affordable oven
powered by the small family-sized Eco-Kalan for the street food vendors and
Bingka (coconut rice cake) & Torta makers in the Philippines.  I tested this
oven on Thursday night with 2 baking pans of Brownies - Paul, Art and others
can attest to the baking performance of the oven.  The small Eco-Kalan
heated  the barrel oven within a few minutes and easily maintained the
desired baking temperature (325 degrees F) for an hour.  For the Friday
luncheon which Larry and I gave to the Stove Campers, I baked chicken
drumsticks with my BBQ sauce at 400 deg initially and later turned down to
350 deg F.   The chicken was baked perfectly - it was so good Simon Anderson
could not resist raiding the leftovers at 1 AM Saturday!!  Larry's oven  is
a darn good oven which I will further develop in the Philippines.  I also
want to thank Mariela from the Dominican Republic,  David of the Dona Dora
plancha stove fame and Bruce for getting the rice, salad and chicken curry
prepared for the hungry multitude!!  THANK YOU ALL for giving me the
opportunity to show what the family size Eco-Kalan and the Eco-Kalan-C can
do.

 

Rebecca  

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 9:13 AM

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Subject: Re: [Stoves] Final (?) report on stove camp

 



Dear Dr.,

 

Thank you for your share about the stove camp in ARC, I am glad you have had
a very good time during the camp and I hope I could attend and learn more
about TLUD stoves. 

 

Best wishes

 

Jacky

 

 

 

At 2013-07-28 08:07:02,rongretlarson at comcast.net wrote:



List:

  This is to give a few more final sentences on the running of the camp.
"Everyone" doing tests or preparing for ones by modifying existing stoves
when I got there at 8:00 for an official start at 9:00. (Earlier, I drove to
the other part of Aprovecho - permaculture - about 6 miles away.)   Probably
a few had worked both late the previous night (and other nights) and had
also started earlier than 8:00 AM..  A little later than normal, the AM
meeting featured Dean giving design tips  (TARP-V earlier  [I need help - I
can't find my notes on that acronym]) and this time "MAMMA" (Mixing,
Architecture, Metering, Moisture, Air).  Also numerous slides on the
production in China of the StoveTec product.

   Many people then were cooking for a big final luncheon.  Especially
Rebecca on a chicken curry  in a huge pot atop one of the two clay stoves
she had brought  (her main change was dropping the pot support heights to
improve convective heat transfer).  Larry W. was roasting chicken in a
horizontal closed 55 gallon drum atop a rocket.    Many salads appeared

   I watched the testing of an interesting stove designed by Kirk Harris
(from La Rosa (?) CA.  This was much larger version of a camping stove he
brought.  Good results on abbreviated testing. I'll write a separate report
on this design as it had several features I have not seen elsewhere.

  Had intersting talks with the other two (besides Rebecca) from outside the
US.  Both named "Omar" - from Senegal and Burkina Faso.  Both very
knowledgeable - and here looking for improved designs for their own
countries.

   Last event of the day -  hearing of the latest results and then a chance
to vote on two $500 prizes.    Leaders on the TLUD side seemed to be Paul
Anderson's and Art Donnelly's - but people could vote for any stove.  Due to
air schedules,  I missed the final vote tally.    I  hope someone can report
all results.

   Final wrap-up comment:
     .  The camp was very well run  (its eleventh?).  The price of $300 is a
bargain if you have a design and know nothing about its emissions.  But for
serious stove researchers the lab is also open for free (!) testing..
Lots of expertise here and very friendly support staff  (free coffee and
donuts all day - and numerous chances to interact with others informally.
I have two brand new design ideas myself to try out.

   Questions and thoughts?

Ron

   This report a little rushed.  Hope others will chime in - especially with
the voting results.






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