[Stoves] stove AND 6-BOX SYSTEM

[Frank Shields]

Very funny Paul.

I don't think knowing the thermal power is at all important. Ask the 
s/he using the stove what thermal power they want. What?!  and I have 
always wondered if changing the thickness of the pot is best to control 
the heat. Thick walled pot and more seconds to heat the task. But 
certainly no number is needed nor possible.


Regards


Frank



On 12/11/17 9:23 PM, Paul Anderson wrote:
> Frank,
>
> Your USE of the 6-box system is the clearest explanation that I have 
> read.   Your comments put it into practical perspective.
>
> Philip Lloyd's comment about wanting to know the thermal power is 
> correct.   And you can overcome that with a watch that shows 
> seconds.   Record the time-to-boil.   Record it in Box 5 or 6, right?
>
> And it certainly could be useful for Michael's needs.  Or for teaching 
> science under a tree in rural Africa.
>
> **** joke:  Michael teaches at the college.   but if he was studying 
> there, this could become known as    student's tea-test     (Ouch!) ***
>
> Paul
>
> Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
> Email:psanders at ilstu.edu
> Website:www.drtlud.com
> On 12/11/2017 10:13 PM, Frank Shields wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michael, Stovers;
>>
>> This is a good example where the 6-Box system would be useful.
>>
>> Set up the system so it makes good tea. The process is to control the 
>> variables and modify one at a time to improve the process. There are 
>> lots of steps you can do but would take some time, test methods and a 
>> little equipment. All simple but not good at this time. Once you have 
>> a good fuel, good technique, and can produce a good cup of tea I 
>> suggest the following:
>>
>> Box-1) Observe the fuel for size, moisture, cleanliness etc.
>>
>> Box - 2: Record the process loading the combustion chamber.
>>
>> Box- 3: Record the combustion chamber; stove model etc.
>>
>> Box-4: Establish info regarding the utensils used; metal, size, 
>> heavy-light etc.
>>
>> Box-5: Record the process; stirring, amount of water, amount of tea, 
>> sugar added etc.
>>
>> Box-6: Determine a good repeatable Completion Point. Perhaps water 
>> just starts to boil or i can hold my hand on the side of the pot for 
>> just one second.
>>
>> You need to know what an improvement would look like for you. Quicker 
>> tea but not care of amount of fuel. Save on fuel, walk away with less 
>> manipulation, air quality, amount of char left, quality of char 
>> produced, etc. Whats important is what the end user decides important.
>>
>>
>> Now all steps are controlled and should be repeatable. You can change 
>> one Box at a time and see if that improves the process. Use dryer 
>> wood or stir more frequently. Use a lighter pot or less water. Add 
>> wood more frequent in smaller quantities - try to get the best 
>> conditions.
>>
>> Because no-one else is doing the same system you will not be able to 
>> compare to other systems. But you might be able to improve your own. 
>> And there are lots of measurements for the fuel that can be made (not 
>> described here) but use simple test methods and no need for a real 
>> lab. Perhaps just some basic equipment.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> Gabilan Laboratory
>>
>>
>> On 12/11/17 6:24 PM, Michael N Trevor wrote:
>>> Lets look at this another way.
>>> NO lab,
>>> NO equipment
>>> How do I test?
>>> I thinking how well it cooks my tea is a good tool
>>>
>
>
>
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