[Gasification] [Stoves] Request for proposals: Medical Waste Incinerator for Humanitarian Emergencies from Innocentive

[Mark Elliott Ludlow]

There’s a R&B lyric that has a line to the effect: “Nuthin’ from nuthin’ leaves nuthin’”.

A good idea? Potentially worth billions. Realistically, ain’t worth doo-doo. Idea people are crushed to hear this because they do not understand the marketplace of ideas. People go to Wharton and Harvard and Stanford to make “angel” connections; to raise that first ½-mil. Then, they need that management team. Don’t forget Social Media Presence (these days!)

 

Anybody on this list make it on their own? Other than cutting and welding and making good journeyman wages?

 

Best wishes for success to all. (Been there!)

Mark

 

From: Gasification [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Jason
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 1:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [Gasification] [Stoves] Request for proposals: Medical Waste Incinerator for Humanitarian Emergencies from Innocentive

 

Hi Paul,

you are quite correct to point out about reading the fine print. For the same reasons of compromising my intellectual property rights I did not enter the woodstove retrofit challenge. http://www.pscleanair.org/priorities/woodheating/woodstoveprogram/Pages/WSChallenge.aspx

This was all explained to them in length, both in email and on the phone. That is quite unfortunate because none of the finalists have combustion improving technology, which is the category my IntensiFire falls into, but simply different ways of dealing with stack emissions. 

The prize of more testing didn't appear to be helpful in pushing the technology toward certification either, testing is no good without an objective to meet. I still have your counsel in my head Paul regarding testing.

 

On a more philosophical note I will say that this scenario highlights the weakness of science, considered by many to be the holy grail of civilisation as we know it. A contest, or a stove test, is a bit like a science experiment. The outcome of an experiment can only be as good as the person that designed that experiment.  Add in a good dose of genuflection and you have a new established "fact" or "winner" that could in fact be highly questionable.  

 

Kind Regards

Jason

 

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Paul Anderson <psanders at ilstu.edu <mailto:psanders at ilstu.edu> > wrote:

To all,

If you are considering doing this, you should first check the details about what you are giving up if you should happen to win.   This is akin to the Virgin Earth Challenge.   THEY end up with a set of rights and the proposer gets some money.   But if you do not win, they still have some lingering rights that you might not like.

Paul



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On 9/6/2015 6:15 AM, Michal Usowicz wrote:

Hey everyone,

I thought this might be right up your guys' alley.  Innocentive is a website that organizations can post design challenges with rewards for proposals that they accept.  There was recently a post for a portable, durable medical waste incinerator.  Check it out if you think you may have a good contribution to make.  


https://www.innocentive.com/ar/challenge/9933340


NOTE: I have nothing to do with this proposal/request.  I'm just forwarding it to you guys.  

Best, 

Michal Usowicz

 

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